Hellcat alice pack modification Thread starter NevadaDesertRat; Start date Dec 17, 2012; NevadaDesertRat Banned Member. Replace the Aug 20, 2018 · The Hellcat Mod is the way I went and I was ok with the old style shoulder straps and hip belt. Are there any issues Jun 17, 2021 · Packs, Bags & Pouches Large ALICE. Or see HERE Nov 25, 2013 · Interesting that he used the large ALICE for his hellcat pics. It’s a multiple-pocket rucksack that attaches to an aluminum frame for stability and improved weight-bearing capability. It works OK but it's a still a pretty heavy pack compared to modern systems. My main pack is a medium Alice/Hellcat with DEI 1606MC frame, Molle straps, MSC, two sustainment pouches with compression straps and four Fastex to secure my hydration pack externally. I'm including the Bobcat mod as well, so please read the entire post. It's basically swapping some straps and such out with molle components and fastex buckles. LOL. Aug 25, 2011 · Tony's Tacticals has Hellcat Upgrade Kits you can purchase for your existing pack if you want to go all the way. I can add mods to most packs - get in touch! Oct 22, 2014 · Price drop Medium Alice/Hellcat mod with extras New O. With unique features such as elongated side pockets and a sturdy build, it offers good value at a reasonable price. only had to replace the frame once when it snapped after i dropped it off my back in selection. In M81 Woodland, it has unfortunately become difficult to find the right strapping at a reasonable price. I found one and it works great, no cutting required and then you have a quick release on those top straps. The rivet WILL break with lateral stress. Large ALICE Pack Mods, Pocket Upgrade, Malice and Hellcat Mod. The frame seems to draw the top of the Mar 14, 2017 · All seems good but the alice pack, frame top, and shoulder straps, ah yah the top stuff isn't 3 for 3 compatible. Though ALICE is a complete system, the most commonly known piece of kit is the ALICE pack, properly known as the LC-1 Field Pack. Frameless ALICE Modification: "Bobcat" Use all modifications, except substitute the LC2 shoulder straps with LC1; and add a small sternum strap that can be purchased at stores such as REI and Campmor etc. The pack itself lasts along time and was extremely easy to modify. The main pack is a medium ALICE with MOLLE II parts—called a Hellcat Mod. May 1, 2022 · I wanted to share what I have done to my medium alice pack. Anything like a Hellcat Medium ALICE? This is a step by step video how to attach a MOLLE II System to an ALICE Pack. You can also use a FILBE frame. Banned. medium alice pack New alice frame ( possibly aftermarket ) New woodland MSS carrier New rucksack liner set (1 large 3 small) New O. Dec 2, 2014 · Hellcat (sort of) Basic Alice pack is good. If it's metal, you've got a Hellcat mod mixing MOLLE II and ALICE. Additionally, I know that I have found some of the other tutorials a bit confusing. The following is a summary of the 1606AC and pics of the Wildcat I posted on AR15. Biggest down sides are the price and the weight of the materials used. MOLLE II Camo - 3 Apr 14, 2017 · EDIT: I admit you could be confused and mean you've "Hellcat" modded some measure of ALICE and MOLLE II (or even USMC FILBE) into a pack system. The main part I am refereing to is the strap that runns alone the top of the padded Sep 9, 2019 · This is a side project. Oct 6, 2011 · Hey guys, have been around the site for a couple months, but just registered. Frame is heavy and breaks at the rivets. Any idea I can buy those 2 items by them self? Apr 24, 2007 · That's the boys and me on a 4-mile hike with the large Alice. I have a medium ALICE pack on a frame, and that is the only way I have ever used it. Molle will fit but will be a little loose and Sep 11, 2019 · Basically you use an Alice pack with the standard external frame and replace the waist belt and shoulder straps with MOLLE gear. Brent0331- https://www. I have only put in about 15 miles at 30-40 lbs on it though. s. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page Oct 8, 2023 · About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright Sep 27, 2011 · I recently did the fastex mod to my ALICE pack, so I figured I would make a tutorial for those that are wondering how to do it. The difference between a good pack and a great pack is comfort and safety. i carred this model of rucksack Dec 2, 2009 · I have some experience with it. Replace the main pack strap sliders with 1 in nylon buckles. May 31, 2012 · Hellcat is a cool mod of the Alice pack and I've been asked a lot of questions about mine. Dec 17, 2012 · alice pack mod question. The DE frames ride super close and are just awesome, I have wore a Molle II pack and it’s decently comfy but I can’t stand how all the Molle creaks and crackles on the plastic. Assembling the "Hellcat": An ALICE/MOLLE Hybrid Ruck By Rod Teague This is my version of the ALICE/MOLLE hybrid that I call the ALLE Pack or "Hellcat". I also use elastic bands to cross/secure the sustainment pouches down better as well. Yes it’s legit! I bought it with a large IBA for 40 bucks all together. See full list on geekprepper. Aug 31, 2011 · Outdoor Sports and Recreation Oct 26, 2020 · putting a hellcat alice pack together Aug 29, 2012 · Others may say differently. If you are truly dedicated you can send your Alice ruck to Tactical Tailor for the Malice pack mods and get Molle panels and such added to it. 4. I have a couple questions about using my Large ALICE pack for hunting and bug out purposes. This review explores its design and potential modifications for enhanced functionality. Feel free to criticize as I am always looking for guidance and support. I also added a male fastex to the bottom d-ring strap connection on the medium alice pack. I basically did the hellcat mod using a DEI 1606 MC frame, but I also added a fastex male connector behind the shoulder strap connections on the frame. 5 inches it will fit right in your medium alice pack and give you I saw this and had to try it. to/3EnHPOsUSMC Assault Pouch: https://amzn. This is a common problem with these packs, so finding suggestions for mods to the frame should be plentiful. I'm looking at this one right now Sep 29, 2013 · The hellcat seems to be a popular mod while others attach the med ALICE to a MOLLE frame. Survival Zone Dec 22, 2016 · Hey guys, had a couple of blokes asking about what kind of pack I'm running with at the moment and thought I'd give you all an overview of the modifications Jul 10, 2013 · The Hellcat mod also puts lateral stress on the center rivet of the alice frame, and critical part which was not designed to take flexing or support weight from the stress of wrapping the MOLLE straps around it. The other is something called a "Hellcat"Modification, this is using a combaction of Molle and Alice parts. However, it isn’t big enough for an overnight hike, especially in the winter. And a photo Feb 21, 2015 · Back in 2011 Rod Teague of the Liberty Tree blog posted his tutorial on how to build what he calls the “Hellcat” ALICE pack. Aug 28, 2012 · (Don't even recall who made them at this point. 5 x 8. I love the Medium ALICE, especially the woodland pattern radio pack case version. This is confirmed if your frame is plastic. The large ALICE pack can carry around 70 lbs. Dec 22, 2018 · Just a few of modifications/additions I made to my medium ALICE pack. However, I wanted a new one to modify into a good wilderness pack instead of a military pack. . blogspot. But, without seeing the frame, it looks like you have the Gen 1 MOLLE II ruck. I got these off of ebay along with a few other repair buckles. My wife is actually from Chicago, and a level 90 financial ninja. As long as the bottom of the trash can is less than 11. I plan to do the full hellcat mod eventually. Without a frame, a medium ALICE pack can carry 40-50 lbs. This because the ALICE frame is not dependent on "slots" to attach the MOLLE sholder harness. Oct 13, 2016 · Just picked up a Medium Alice pack from Old Grouch's sale. Mar 13, 2022 · #Bushcraft #Survival #FireboxstoveMedium ALICE Pack Mods - Hellcat Molle ii UpgradesGear That Wooly Recommends Buy The Gear, Amazon Affiliate Links Buying ge Oct 20, 2010 · It is most likely up to me to perform this task. It is fair to say that the weakest link of the ALICE pack system was the issue suspension system and the tubular aluminum frame. youtube. The loops on the side are for your alice clip accessories. The 1606AC should work fine w/ ALICE packs; I did a modification w/ the old 1606 for my wife; it worked very well and utilized a modification I call the Bobcat. Give or take some things- this is what I did. com May 12, 2015 · Is anyone using the large alice pack with a hellcat mod, how do you like it? Is it comfortable? I have a medium Alice pack with frame as well as the sleep system carrier, all i need is the shoulder straps and the kidney pad. Jan 12, 2012 · The real issue with the ALICE pack's water resistance is not the rubberized liner on the top flap, it's all the leaky seams and the big 'ol grommets that are in the bottom of the pack. I appreciate any tips/help with this project in advance. You could look up Hellcat mod for the alice pack and spend a good amount of time reading up on that. Now you need to cut off the sliders off the bottom Jun 25, 2010 · The best of both worlds is the Alice pack with the Molle straps and pads (Hellcat mod). Apr 16, 2013 · All of these mods give me much more capability with my large alice pack. Dec 31, 2008 · Left the MOLLE pack stuff home. I'm considering 1 of 2 approaches: 1. Some things were improved over the GI Alice ruck. Bragg and had it modified while he was there. The ALICE/MOLLE systems are May 8, 2010 · They are hard to find but there is a very similar mod kit that is made for the ALICE that adds the buckles to attach a patrol pack like the molle II packs have. To mod up an ALICE the way I like it, it becomes cost prohibitive quite quickly. What mods does it require to do it ? What’s the advantages ? From what I understand, it's upgrading the suspension to more modern ILBE MOLLE straps and hip belt, which are more comfortable. I used the same pack all through selection, Q course, deployments. As is, the ALICE w/ frame is a basic time proven design so you could get the pack now and mod down the road if funds are tight. CL let's build a MALICE pack! part 1: Frame Mods. During that video I covered how on many of the ALICE packs on the surp “The Baldwin Articles – ALICE Pack Trilogy: Part 3 of 3 In Part 2 we talked about modifications to the ALICE pack itself. Hopefully this post will help you assemble a Hellcat without any difficulty; or maybe give you some additional ideas on how to develop your own hybrid. com. The large ALICE is built to be carried with a frame only. Sep 9, 2023 · My mods to my large LC1 ALICE pack#alicepack #bushcraft #diy This was a fun project for sure. As long as the bottom of the trash Powered by Frooition Pro Shop Search Item Description"HELLCAT" PACKHYBRID MOLLE / ALICEGENUINE US MILITARY ISSUE PARTS*** FULLY ASSEMBLED ***This is a "Hellcat" modification of the traditional ALICE pack. Willie at General Jackson’s will add the mounting straps for $12. It was kind of fun to do but, by the time I was finished, I had spent enough to justify a much better pack. If you want an ALICE pack to be comfortable spend the money and Sep 5, 2012 · First thing to do is read my Bobcat modifications in my earlier post. Special information about the Waist/Kidney Belt attach Dec 11, 2021 · Look up the Alice pack Hellcat mod. Joined Dec 2, 2009 Messages 418 I don't know anything about the civilian packs. And a photo Down East Alice Pack 1606AC Pack Frame Review 1606 HellCat Mod - Page 1. A commercial pack that has the build and quality of the Hellcat will easily cost you $300 to $500; you can assemble this hybrid pack for under $70. My first mod will be to swap out the straps and pad for the MOLLE design and adding a MSS carrier (a la the Hellcat Pack) and a handle. ALICE Packs. Yess you can still use the frame without the pack after the mod. The ALICE/MOLLE systems are inexpensive, plentiful, solid platforms from which to build a hybrid ruck. army combat rucksack common called the alice pack was used for many yrs as the standard issue for combat operations. taking an off-the-shelf ALICE pack and frame and making the tweaks to turn it into a high-speed-low-drag lean, Feb 18, 2015 · Thanks for the helpful info guys! I think my biggest problem with the ALICE straps is that they flip around when I out the pack on or take it off. At first blush, it seems MUCH more comfortable. D. Thread starter Tarakian; Start date Nov 24, 2010; Tarakian Scout. Any info will help, and humor is always welcome! 1. It's a pretty cost effective way to bring the ALICE up to date. Thread starter mangorockfish; Start date Aug 15, 2018; Prev. Aug 20, 2018 · I ordered all the parts to create the hellcat alice pack, but i was infuriated to find out that the shoulder straps weren't sold with the short attachment straps at the tops of the load lifter straps so now i can't install it properly and it's totally butchered my whole project, it seems very hard to find a set of molle shoulder straps with the straps still on them. Some modifications anyone can make to a large Alice pack as well as some tips and tricks for using them. The should straps are nicer, they have load lifters and have wider, softer pads. So I either need a custom/extended frame with hip belt, or a framesheet/"neutered" frame with no hip belt. That's just the tip of the iceberg. One of the more standardized modifications in this category was the Hellcat mod. Search out many pix of "Hellcat" hybrid ALICE/MOLLE pack rig posted by member Enforcer. You can use a regular tie down strap in the middle to tie down loads in the Alice too. Mar 12, 2013 · The rivets should hold nicely. First you need a set of Fastex repair buckles. I set mine up just a little different than some others do. Joined Dec 17, 2011 Messages 252 Likes 4 Just modernized one I’ve had for 15+ years and have been rucking with it. In Part 3, I’ll focus on ALICE Frame and Suspension Upgrade options. Regarding torso adjustment; the "Hellcat" hybrid ruck using the aluminum ALICE frame has a wider range of adjustment possibilities available to it. Thread starter Has anyone done a Hellcat mod to a large ALICE? If so, how does it ride. Recently I posted a very extensive video about the medium and large ALICE pack system. Feb 23, 2020 · Upgrades to my USGI large ALICE pack. After 20 plus years I've gone full circle back to the Alice. Nov 27, 2011 · When looking for a solid ruck, the SOF definitely fits the bill. Both my ALICE packs have been modified extensively. ) The HellCat mods, as I understand it, pretty much handle this issue with the MOLLE straps. Basically, this involves using a MOLLE II AC/MC frame and the Molle II Waistbelt and Shoulder straps. Feb 2, 2020 · I tried a "Hellcat" ALICE mod before but it did not fit me well. You can have an ALICE large or medium modified to mount nicely on a MOLLE II frame. In this video, I break down my medium Alice pack, and all the modifications that I’ve made to it. Jul 1, 2023 · Go to THIS Thread and scroll through it until you find Enforcer's posts about the "Hellcat" modification to the ALICE packs. If you type in "Alice pack Hellcat mod" then look for the Liberty Tree Blog, thisis the instructions for the Hellcat mod. New pack with nearly new surplus straps and the price was damn right. All of these comments make me laugh… After an infantry career humping ILBEs and FILBEs from Pendleton, to Afghanistan, mountain warfare school , etc… any pack feels great to me when you aren’t wearing a flak and carrying a 240, or ammo, mortars, rockets, etc. Perhaps I need to ignore the upper pack "envelope" and then put the straps on the the frame 1st and then put alice pack on frame. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright Aug 27, 2017 · ALICE (either size) with original ALICE frame but upgraded MOLLE II suspension (Malice/Hellcat mod) Votes: 13 15% MOLLE II system Feb 8, 2012 · I ordered MOLLE straps to complete the hellcat mod on my medium ALICE pack. I thought the original hellcat used a medium ALICE; at least that's what I used when I made mine. of gear. The straps came withought the little top straps that attatch to the frame, and withought the buckels in the sholder strap loops. If you're choosing between these two For a bug out bag - go with the large ALICE. It’s an excellent blend of modern and older technology and has proven to be popular among bushcrafters and survivalists. Try the Hellcat mod; pack as in the video; you will find there is far more potential than you imagined. I had mine done a few weeks ago while I was at Ft Bragg. https://libertytreeblogs. The best and most cost efficient way to go is simply to use a waterproof liner like the USGI waterproof bag or a large garbage bag. I know the Alice packs are still pretty prevalent and so I figured it would make for a great secondary pack, and for 20 bucks it’s worth putting a few bucks into since I got it so cheap. Jun 21, 2016 · I'm still lugging around my old medium hellcat ALICE pack that @Bl3wbyyou kicked down to me two years ago. My other pack is what I call the Raptor, Cuban/Alice Hellcat with LC2frame, Molle straps and sustainment pouches. 1. 2. Nothing will make an overloaded Medium Alice pack (~35 lbs, IMHO) wear well for long trips. Thanks Oct 8, 2023 · Early attempts mostly consisted of other USGI or NATO force components using methods that could be done in the field. to/44As0OYE&E Pouch: https://amzn. I’ve been playing around with ALICE packs for a while now. I hunted down pack and built a frame to fit. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright Jul 2, 2024 · The Turkish ALICE Pack Medium is a durable and practical backpack variant of the classic ALICE Pack. Everybody on the internet complains about this pack being uncomfortable, but it's probably the greatest military ruck ever made. Jun 29, 2010 · Hello all, Just received my Hellcat Alice from Tony's! Put it all together last night, did the fastex buckle mod, added a tubular nylon carry/drag handle, and finally put the 2 molle canteen pouches on the side. I know them very well. However, the Alice was not with out its issues. Go to THIS Thread and scroll through it until you find Enforcer's posts about the "Hellcat" modification to the ALICE packs. So r/survival, what mods have you seen/tried/recommended for the ALICE Pack? Notes: Apr 2, 2014 · Off Topic Section. One of the biggest complaints about the Alice pack vs the Molle pack has been the straps or lack of padding. For those who don't care about the color, the set in Nov 24, 2010 · Packs, Bags & Pouches Alice Hellcat mod. ("Comfort bands" are the black bands wrapped around the bottom of the padded portion of the shoulder straps in the photo below - they constrict the bottom padding forcing Aug 7, 2024 · The shoulder straps and hip belt of the newer MOLLE II Main Packs are very popular for the "HELLCAT MOD" as they are relatively inexpensive to get, or were. 5 things to improve your ALICE pack. Shoulder straps and kidney belt dated. Great post:thumb: FYI; those of us that have been using ALICE for years have a simple trick that makes the pack water tight and useful as a PFD. Quoted: Jun 9, 2010 · The frame is more than adequate; the suspension is the problem. He had a modification done to install fastex buckles on the lid and pouches to make it easier to get into. This pack is tried and true and is far from retirement! Enj Oct 13, 2016 · Liberty Tree and Arfcom pix concerning the hellcat mods to ALICE packs working. Below are two video walkthroughs of this method: Hellcat ALICE Pack. Oct 8, 2023 · Early attempts mostly consisted of other USGI or NATO force components using methods that could be done in the field. The frame is an honest 3 lbs but its good. This auction is for One Alice Pack complete with the "Hellcat" modification on aPeak 1 frame. the u. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Buy, Sell, and Trade A decade ago I started guiding for a place that required instructor's to carry roycroft packs about a year in and I realized my roycroft was loads better than an ALICE frame. Turk Jan 31, 2023 · Medium ALICE pack can be carried with or without a frame. to/3OZNNd5Wai Sep 15, 2012 · I use the "Hellcat" modification for the ALICE pack, which basically replaces the stock shoulder straps and kidney pad with the MOLLE straps and kidney pad, and it makes a world of difference in comfort IMO. Posted: 10/13/2016 4:38:31 PM EDT [#2] Quote History. com/u Feb 17, 2014 · It also works great for "comfort bands" when running the later "enhanced" issue ALICE pack shoulder straps, and for securing an hydration tube onto the shoulder straps, etc. The Hellcat ALICE combines parts from recent MOLLE II rucksacks with the old standby ALICE pack. If I were going to be putting some serious miles on an ALICE pack today, I'd probably bite the bullet and put it on a Mystery Ranch NICE frame, though that's pretty spendy. It saved me a lot of time in trying Dec 9, 2023 · Backpacks, Molle 2 Backpack, Alice Packs to Hellcat Mods including some tips and general information. Add a handle on top. I'm looking into aftermarket frames now because the heavy ass frame on this thing takes it's toll on my back, but otherwise it's a perfect pack. The pack would roll around and ultimately something hard in the pack would poke me in the back making the carry difficult and sometimes painful. The Alice pack has often been the choice for the heavy work. Thread Alice Hellcat mod. I purchased a Hellcat outright from him. Oct 31, 2010 · Thats my understanding of the Hellcat mod. I purchased my pack from a gentleman online who was stationed at Ft. Jul 16, 2019 · What’s a Alice hellcat? i got a large Alice pack and I wanted to make it into a hellcat . 3. However, the ALICE packs can take a massive beating. Sep 15, 2012 · I use the "Hellcat" modification for the ALICE pack, which basically replaces the stock shoulder straps and kidney pad with the MOLLE straps and kidney pad, and it makes a world of difference in comfort IMO. Sep 3, 2023 · Breakdown of my Stoked Modified ALICE PackALICE Pack: https://amzn. Com Archive. We have used the Large ALICE pack and the ALICE frame, but with the MOLLE shoulder straps and kidney pad. In addition to those, I have also modded t Nov 14, 2023 · Note that attaching the MOLLE II shoulder straps to the metal ALICE frame precludes use of the ALICE packs. 50. Get a rain cover. And I'm not even interested in using the Large Alice at all -- it's no-way-no-how gonna be comfortable for me, and I have other non-military packs for larger loads. addon pouches ( 2 large 1 small) Almost new woodland Molle shoulder straps Used woodland Molle Sep 4, 2010 · The Large ALICE will work just fine with the frame. Down East Alice Pack 1606AC Pack Frame Review 1606 HellCat Mod - AR15. Plus, it was too big for what I'm doing. Most of you are probably familiar with the buckle mods and MOLLE 2 upgrades. The pack was usable as is when I got it, however I decided to make a few "improvements". May 20, 2015 · What is a DevilCat mod? It’s what happens when you take some new USMC hardware and upgrade an ALICE pack. Answer as thoroughly or as vague as you like. Upgrade to Molle belt and shoulder straps but I recommend the Down east frame. May 5, 2011 · This was particularly critical when using the pack over the top of my web gear. Heavier loads would also tear the D-rings loose making the ruck unusable w/o the frame. Current pack set up, a gen 3 medium Alice pack on a Molle medium frame with a Molle large ruck waist pad, and a waist pack for an expansion/quick access/ mini-pack Loadout Only problem is the top of the frame would squish in and come out of its spot but that was fixed with two paracord tie downs like in the last picture. I don't recommend it. While others in my opinion went the other way. Dec 16, 2019 · The standard Alice frame is freaking awesome but I can’t stand how it feels like the pack is constantly peeling away from your back. Willie has been sewing on Aug 15, 2018 · Packs, Bags & Pouches. Aug 4, 2021 · Cavs CustomsModifications added to a medium ALICE pack. Search for Hellcat modifications. A framesheet that could be molded some and sized to fit in that shoulder pad sleeve. It is a semi-hellcat pack as I haven't added a sleep system carrier as the large alice pack already has ample amounts of room. com Feb 24, 2021 · My pack is a woodland camo medium ALICE with custom Krylon spray paint finish. Down East Inc makes the 1606-AC and 1606-MC plastic frames which are specifically intended to attach to Med/LG Alice Jun 21, 2020 · The medium ALICE pack can be used without a frame, but I would like to hear from people who have used it with and without the frame and which one they feel best about. See giant "Alice Gear Setups" thread in pinned topic "Look Here First" In Tac Gear Forum here. I knew guys in the military who while in retrofitted commercial molded frames to take an ALICE bag. I have done it, but not been hiking with it yet. Apr 30, 2011 · This is my version of the ALICE/MOLLE hybrid that I call the ALLE Pack or "Hellcat". Down East Alice Pack 1606AC Pack Frame Review 1606 HellCat Mod - Page 1. I much prefer the hellcat to the original configuration ALICE pack. Blackhawk SOF Ruck review - YouTube Step by step installment of the MOLLE II shoulder straps and waist belt kidney pad onto my Vietnam US Military Large ALICE Ruck and frame. qbixyq cpkzpqe ecieqmk qbmpi rgj hxbqgty cerwq mhbezgl ekuzm lzq mpsyg cokcdo mnkoyod nfch yyrhu